calculate, it may feel good at the moment to poke a finger in the eye of the united states, but there are serious long term consequences if he does it. >> john, i think you're the right person to ask this about, the interpol wasn't asked by the u.s. to issue a red notice to arrest snowden. what is a red notice? >> a red notice is the interpol wanted poster that goes to the interpol member countries, when someone goes into the port of that country and they enter them into the system, it should come up. it has a red stripe down the , side. that would be what you would do, if you would be looking for a fugitive, particularly if you had no idea where person was. in this case, part of the discussion is should they have issued a red notice on him before he left hong kong? but remember, the u.s. government, i mean, they talked to hong kong on june 17th and eric holder spoke to them on the