is political. i mean, if it's not political, what is the goal of what needs to come out of this? the goal would be, to your point, if there were mistakes leading in, that they are never made again. >> exactly. >> as opposed to finding out that you're to blame and i'm going to get you. >> when president bill clinton was in office and we had a tragedy at mogadishu, they asked for more armed personnel. he denied it and he resigned because of it. he ultimately resigned and said he had made a mistake. hillary clinton's decision is to me, very analogous to what happened when he denied security for those in mogadishu. >> so, every night we take a look outside the day's top stories for something we call the "out front" out take. in the interview you just saw, >> so, every night we take a look outside the day's top stories for something we call the "out front" out take. in the interview you just saw, it almost didn't happen. was he ducking our request? no.