>> the one thing about this river objective, nobody's done it. there's no map. there's no information. you're moving through this huge national park that doesn't even have a park ranger. >> the challenge of crossing the llanganates is only made possible because of the whitewater kayak. and so that becomes some kind of life's accomplishment to have trained as a whitewater kayaker for more than two decades, to bring that to bear on one of the world's greatest river challenges. there's no other accomplishment that i can imagine that would match that for me. it's winning the world series. it's a sporting accomplishment on that level. since the plan is to spend at least two weeks in this river, we're going to have to utilize all of our experience and, you know, rely on each other for hopefully the different attributes we bring to the