i was on the road all through 2016. it's something we have seen persist through this race as well, which is that there hasn't been anyone that has seemed to be big enough to take on the personality that has been donald trump. there's a much different campaign in 2016 than 2020. certainly in the wake of january 6th 2021. jeff, your word for him was a thug. i want to ask you about something we heard from donald trump. he had a counterprogramming town hall last night on fox news. and he was pressed on that question around his dictator on day one, which came from another fox event. here's how trump seems to try to clairify that this tomb. >> can you say tonight that political violence is never acceptable? >> of course, that's right. and of course, i'm the one that had very little of it.