it's not an effective attack from the trump allies and how they are prepared to deal with the whistleblower complaint. they're seizing on the fact there was no, in their words, quid pro quo directly. but cnn reporting shows that the timeline, the aid to ukraine suspended matches up with this phone call. and democrats say the implication of the president's actions was enough to tell the ukrainians what his intentions were. >> it's not even that quid pro quo matters in this. as to the extensive cover-up, that "the washington post" has done incredible reporting on, how high could this go? what would it mean -- what would it take to move the conversations, to a data pace that usually contains highly confidential information? >> that's one of the most interesting parts of the whistleblower complaints. we had a good sense of what the