it's the congressional leadership that failed to hold them accountable in that first impeachment, that emboldened him going into a pandemic, resulting in 600,000 dead. imagine the world in which he was removed or even censured, and he was back on his heels. would he have taken the pandemic more seriously? would 600,000 people have died? and i think not. >> you know, his first impeachment hinged on what you heard during that infamous phone call. take us back. what were you thinking when you heard trump asking ukraine's president to "do us a favor"? >> well, to me, it was the culmination of an enterprise. in the preceding months, i watched as this irregular channel unfolded where giuliani was looking to demand an investigation into president biden, and it didn't come to fruition. so it was a nuisance until it