and if players aren't vaccinated, perhaps they should not be part of the nfl. because this is not just about yourself. this is about the health of other people. you're putting other people's lives at risk. it's not just about you. so there are different rules, when you're in the middle of a deadly virus and a pandemic. and most businesses across the country, many of them, if you don't get vaccinated, you cannot come to work. so then why should the nfl be different? >> well, you would have to ask commissioner goodell that, and the owners, don. but the fact of the matter is that the nfl has come together with the pa and said we're not going to mandate vaccinations. and so whether you free with that or not, that's just where we stand. what they are, however, saying is that we believe in the vaccine, we believe in the science of the vaccine, we want to encourage coaches, players, to get vaccinated. >> no, i understand. but then you can't be made if they say you have to forfeit a