is not an indictment. this is not a criminal charge. however, what it is is a road map for doj if doj cares to take this up, which they ought to. there's really two things going on. in the narrow sense the committee, congress, is saying we get to get these e-mails involving john eastman because they're not privileged. normally communications between an attorney and a client are privileged. but not if they relate to a fraud. so the committee's saying these e-mails relate to a fraud, so we get those e-mails. but bigger picture, don, this is a call to action by the committee to doj. this is the committee telling doj we think there's at least enough here that you doj need to be taking a very serious look and here's the case as we lay it out for potential criminal fraud and obstruction of congress. >> elie, the filing includes an e-mail exchange between vice president pence's counsel, which is greg jacob, and john eastman. jacob dismisses eastman's argument to stop the certification of biden's win saying, and i quote here, "and