could be an existential crisis. explain why you think it's different this time? >> well, it's different this time, don, because he has -- um -- two deeply-resourced, sophisticated prosecutors breathing down his neck. he has juggled these kinds of accusations in the past from journalists. but journalists don't have subpoena power. journalists don't have the power of the law behind them. and -- and he's -- he's in a corner now. um, we don't know, you know, if he will stay there. we don't know if he'll end up, you know, deeply pen -- penalized in the civil case, and possibly going to jail in the criminal case. i -- i -- i don't see that as an outcome. but i don't see also that he is just going to skate through this as he has through every other lega legal snafu he has encountered in the past because it is just a very different set of circumstances this time. and his organization has been under pressure. he has people inside his own