deposition. hypocrisy aside, if trump takes the fifth can't that be used against him in a civil case or in civil cases? >> right. it can be used that is you can tell the jury that he took the fifth and allow the jury to basically take whatever it wants, make whatever conclusions, draw conclusions from that. that is that he is hiding something. and, you know, all of our constitutional right. perfectly fine. but this is just so viewers understand, a civil case all that can happen is money damages or an injunction. so it would be paying back, say, new york state for not paying enough taxes for example or being forced to do something or not to do something. that's really different from the criminal context which of course can put someone in jail. so one of their primary arguments was, well, the new york or the manhattan da is at the same time looking into