that effing n-word. it relates directly to violence. but does it prove that ahmaud arbery's murder was a hate crime? >> you know, i'm glad to be with you. i'm sorry we're having to talk about this. let me say one thing i've enjoyed listening to mr. arbery, the father, speak candidly from his heart. that was moving. this is the difficulty with a hate crime prosecution. no matter how disgusting and sickening, racist comments that somebody might make, that just gives a picture of their character. but it doesn't necessarily prove the hate crime. i mean, that's a little tough to explain except that you got to actually say that mr. arbery was killed because of his race, that that was a motivator in the killing. and the government is going to have to approve that. that's why we're looking for comments that were close in