case you didn't step away from race because people thought of jews as a different race of people. a different species. i think whoopi was thinking of all of us in america in 2022. it was kind of a slip. tell her it's a slip. why is it when somebody makes a mistake like that, even not talking about black people this time, she has to be excommunicated in this way. it's reck it's nasty. it's got to stop. i think she should not have been suspended. she should have been told she was wrong, maybe in colorful ways but this isn't necessary. >> especially after an apology and another conversation. and the whole chastising of her in the memo from someone who is an icon. and not that that -- that doesn't inoculate someone from having a point of view that is ignorant, but still, it was -- >> no, but we're in a situation these days where the apology means nothing. that's how you know something's