he said he called you -- he said you were something, an angry white man or something like that. or mean. i forget. let's go beyond these two guys. talk about what's really happening here. is it really that perplexing to people that black america exists in all kinds of shades? that doesn't change the black experience in america. >> not at all. thank you for having me, brother don. you know, you would hope they were joking because if they weren't this exposes the vast lethal ignorance at the heart of so much whiteness. whether intentional or not. we all know that black is not a phenotypical reality. we're not talking about a genetic predisposition toward darker skin. we're speaking about an existential context. we're talking about a philosophical idea. we're speaking about rooted cultures in deep histories that have vast traditions, that have