what he was saying was that they were in favor of preserving order over justice, which is kyrsten sinema and joe manchin. so when you are talking about these individuals, look, we are not saying that they are using dogs or water hose on black folk and negros in the south. we are saying their mindset to preserve order over having justice for people who look like me and you, don, puts them on the same side of the historical coin as individuals like george wallace and lester maddox. the fact that we can't have this elevated conversation with nuance in today's media landscape, et cetera, is purely sad. but that is the fact. and if you are going to vote against these bills, then you have to be comfortable in making your bed that you will be in bed with those individuals in history. >> thank you both. i appreciate it. voting rights legislation going down in defeat to defeat in the senate tonight. now democratic senator jeff merkley of oregon. senator, thank you for joining. i appreciate it. i know that you are disappointed. you fought hard for this.