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generalized overthrow of the government to the extent people didn't have the ability or power. to do that here seditious conspiracy is essentially conspiracy to interfere with or obstruct or stop or prevent the execution of any law. and here is a very particular law that was being executed at the time, the certification of the votes. so that's one thing. the specificity of it, the concreteness of it. and the other is this indictment that runs to 48 pages has paragraph after paragraph that recites communications that were made available to law enforcement obviously from someone i think was cooperating because it's encrypted app communications. and you have chapter and verse about how the leader of the oath keepers and others going back weeks before january 6th was plotting, planning to use violence, to use weaponry in a tactical way to interfere with the execution of a particular u.s. law. so i think it's stronger than a case we have seen in the past that have not faired well in part because of the encrypted evidence, i think.

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