reed, hemming and hawing. >> -- to disclose that the president had been administered oxygen. >> that's a good question. i was trying to reflect the upbeat attitude that the team, the president during the course of his illness has had. i didn't want to give any information that might steer the course of illness in another direction. and in doing so, you know, it came off that we were trying to hide something, which wasn't necessarily true. >> can you -- do you remember that? right? i had forgotten about that. seems like a lifetime ago, but that was just last year. all the white coats standing there. it was like a sci-fi movie. it wasn't necessarily true they were trying to hide something. how many american lives could have been saved, though? if the former president had told the public how sick he was. how dangerous covid is?