terminating one's pregnancy? it's a fundamental misconception of what is being talked about. the idea you're going to say as long as you can terminate parental rights and put your child up for adoption, that is the same thing as being able to have the choice and agency to terminate one's pregnancy is so flawed, so is justice cavanaugh's thought here, don, where he suggests the supreme court ought to be neutral. well, i want a supreme court neutral, said no one ever. the whole role of the judicial nine is to be able to be decisive and make decisions where the lower courts particularly have conflict. and in mississippi, there has been no conflict. courts have said, the lower courts have said it's unconstitutional. by virtue of even taking this case, don, you already see the leanings. >> and perhaps you're right, people of color, women of color. it's a resource issue. maybe should it be women of color and poor women of every different ethnicity. >> it affects women. it affects women.