democrats on the handoff not long ago saying they were weak, they weren't using the bully pulpit. i said the president was holding events at 2:00 in the afternoon when people are in traffic. this is just what we said on the handoff. so, this was -- and that in virginia, you know, the opponent, the republican guy, that he was probably going to win. the momentum was going in his direction. you were talking about it with harry enten and with others, glenn youngkin. so, look. not a complete surprise to us but i think it was -- i really do think that democrats didn't see the forest for the trees. and i am not exactly sure if they do now. it should be a wake-up call for them but i'm not exactly sure it is a wake-up call for them i mean that they know about. it should be but there certainly is a lesson in it for them. >> there is lessons about where the country is. i don't think that it's anything new. i don't think they got the mood wrong. it's just about whether or not you choose to match the mood. and look. this is a center-center-left