coming from honestly joe manchin. because when i said let's talk about it, i just want to put some more substance in it besides just the sound bites. he talks about inflation. he talks about shell games and budget gimmicks. but is he right? is he being fair? okay. well, consider this. senator joe manchin is not ready to support the social spending bill but he is fine with the infrastructure bill, even though that added more than $250 billion to the deficit. senator bernie sanders pushing back at manchin, pointing out the congressional budget office estimated the infrastructure bill would add $256 billion to deficits over the next decade. but joe manchin didn't want to talk about that tonight. >> senator, the infrastructure bill you supported added $250 billion to the deficit according to cbo. so how do you square that with your comments today about the concerns about the debt and deficit of build back better