the 5th. and then, when that does not go well for trump, he calls into the willard war room, talks to juul, giuliani, talks to bannon. and says according to the reporting in our book that pence was quote very arrogant. it meant pence wasn't moving so they come up with another plan. issue a statement saying that pence actually agrees with trump's position on the election, and they do that to the anger and fur fury of pence advisers. but it still does not put into motion what they want from pence but this is what is happening before the insurrection. >> you also report that in the wake of the insurrection, that mark milley, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, invoked bannon in trying to understand the origins of -- of january 6th saying this, and i quote, it was a planned revolution. steve bannon's vision coming to life. bring it all down. blow it up. burn it. and emerge with power. so, milley didn't have any doubt what the motivation was and who was responsible? >> he did not. and as a reporter, you just try to look at the facts, straight