in society. that would be the biggest block in the world. >> think about this. listen. i'm not advocating for anything. why wouldn't -- democrats want $15 an hour. okay, fine. however you feel about that. but if you're an hourly worker, why wouldn't you want more money? regardless if you're republican or democrat, why wouldn't you want a living wage to be able to take care of your family? that's not what their politicians say. they want $15, the minimum wage will drive us out of business and blah, blah, blah, blah. that's what republicans are saying. so far that is liberal socialism. it's a living wage is not socialism. having -- being able to take care of your children and have child care for your children -- >> i don't care what it is. go ask somebody if they're making $10 an hour if they want to make $15. >> they will tell you what? >> not only do i want to, i have to. i'm starving. >> yes. that's going to be interesting to see what the president says tomorrow night and i know anderson is the finalist