president. what you seen since then. it wwas, i would say very stron effort to be contentious but there wasn't really an issue about memory because he wasn't a direct eyewitness to what happened and the issue really for us is how his organization operates. he's the owner. he's the president. and in all different ways, he's responsible for the conduct of the people in it and that was coming out today and that doesn't test his memory, that just tests his commitment. >> yeah. >> so what do you want? >> what we want for our clients at this point is damages including punitive damages because the conduct was so outrageous. people have a right to demonstrate on a public sidewalk to express their views and express to the public what is wrong with someone running for office. mr. trump's agents interfered to stop the demonstration. that is completely wrong in this country. that's not how a democracy operates and what we want is to