this proverse sense of prerogative that hey, i have the freedom -- you have the freedom to walk into traffic. you know, we don't suggest you do it. whatever happened to character counts? and a conservative standing for values and ethics and doing what's right. remember how they attacked clinton? do you remember how mike pence as a member of congress wrote a letter saying judge him as a neighbor? >> uh-uh. >> we need to have the moral r leaders as christians and in the communities. so you're not going to do something science tells you to do to keep yourself and others safe in your community out of some proverse sense of freedom because you don't have to? >> chris, here is the whole point. you do have the freedom not to -- so then don't do it. but then you cannot expect to do what everyone else does. you have the freedom. and that's what they're telling