so i'm not admitting of any possibility other than getting this done. >> i've got get your -- i want to ask you about this new book by bob woodward and robert costa. it's called "peril." their reporting says john eastman wrote a memo tried to overthrow the election by throwing out electors from seven states. what's your reaction to this memo? >> they all understood they lost the election. and this memo, along with other work of the trump campaign was designed to overturn the clear results of the election. they just didn't care. they don't care about our democracy anymore. apparently all that matters is staying in power. so they'll -- they'll pass voter suppression laws around the country. they'll strip independent election officials of their powers and give them to partisan boards to help them succeed where they failed to overturn the last election, and yes, they'll write memos saying hey, here is a way we can subvert the will of the voters if we can just get the vice president to ignore his constitutional duty.