that and i am going to continue to speak the truth and people love it. i can't believe that they love you so much. it's really unbelievable. um, and more than anything, they like it when we fight. >> yeah. you make too much of our fighting. >> i like it. >> we've never had -- >> not a real fight. a disagreement. >> yeah. we disagree about a lot of stuff. um, but i really -- i am amazed by this. i have been saying this to don for years. i don't know why people are so moved by something that is so natural. it's like, you know, don could do this podcast with, like, 20 of his friends. you know, this is the way you guys talk to each other, isn't it? i mean, have we really gotten to the point where you won't talk about the sticky bits with each other, anymore? >> yeah. but i think the real thing is when people's heads pop off when they see us in public. wait, you mean it's real? hey, cuomo. where is your boy, don lemon? right there. >> i got to tell you, though. with leaning in and speaking the truth, the president of the united states did it tonight, and i am so glad that he did. it is the right thing. it's the right attitude.