situation, but all that work is ahead of them, and i would expect president biden to emphasize that they've begun that work and will sustain it. >> america mckinnon, this is still a disaster that could really blow up at any moment, but you the president is sticking to his message that it was the right thing to do to get out. the reality of this and the politics, only just horrible. bhal the lasting impact of this be? is it too soon to tell? do we know? >> i think john make as a great point. there is expected and reasonable ventilating about what has been going on the last few days. it has been a calamity, a collapse, and john mentioned the response they hadn't expected this particular outcome. welsh that's inexcusable. that's what you do in military scenario planning you plan for any outcome, any possibility. so this should have been a possibility that was anticipated and there should have been a