life. d.c. police officer jeffrey smith and howard liebengood also took their lives. joining us now, michael fanone. good evening. >> thank you. >> we don't know exactly why the officers took their own lives. but we talked about the january 6th insurrection and the impact hit on your mental health and other officers. how big of a struggle is this for officers? >> i mean, i think it's -- it's -- we're experiencing what i would describe as an epidemic, law enforcement suicides, it's a big problem. >> it's not just that, also.