today's indictment. what activity are we talking about? >> this indictment charges the theft of fossils off a number of different types of federal land. there are also charges in there that pertain to money laundering, structuring of currency transactions, false statements made to various government agencies. >> the indictments were an avalanche of charges. it was just a massive document, and it looked like a deathblow to the institute. >> the government just went nuts or something. i mean, i guess they just threw everything in and hoped something would stick. >> if you add up the time served for each of those offenses is 353 year for me, which is longer than jeffrey dahmer was sentenced for, and he killed people. >> it doesn't make sense. a lot of these accusations are things that we know were legal. >> 38 felony indictments for collecting fossils?