this is a simulator, we don't allow that to happen. >> richard, you and i were watching that. you had the same situation in simulators. >> the instructor will not even countenance the idea. they don't even want to think about it. don't want to try it. not only that, there have been times in the simulator i got into trouble and the instructor won't just switch it back. he'll take the controls, and they'll fly it out. it's a mental blockage. they dare not go to the idea that this isn't real. >> ron, it's interesting. is it possible once the flight data recorder is found, i mean, if this co-pilot in the last seconds attempted to pull the plane back, to pull the plane up, would that record in the flight data recorder?