everybody has done, the occasional hospital that's having a shutdown because 10% to 20% of their health care workers are protesting the vaxx mandate. there is serious concern that the mandates themselves, well-meaning though they may be, and there is debate over that, may be causing this backlash and this serious full-on revolt that may bring portions of an already fragile economy to its knees, creating, i believe, a valid debate over whether the mandates are in some way counterintuitive if our goal is to get people vaccinated. >> why do you think, mark, that no other established democracy in the world is having the struggle that we are with getting vaccinated? >> it's a similar cousin to why are we the only country with x amount of gun proliferation? america is different. america is special. america is unique. there is a liberty mindset that