idea that somehow there's a way to have gotten out without chaos ensu ensuing, i don't know how that happens. i don't know how that happened. >> they say they were prepared for all contingencies. clearly you were not prepared for all contingencies. clearly could you have gotten your people out first and done this early. and if this president doesn't grasp the urgency of doing more and better here, some words of his may come back to haunt him -- these. >> there's going to be no circumstances where you're going to see people being lifted off the roof of an embassy of the united states from afghanistan. the likelihood there's going to be the taliban overrunning everything and owning the whole country is highly unlikely. >> happened. and that picture of saigon, we don't have to compare it to anything else. it's bad enough on its own.