it? for that let's bring in a leading cyber expert, runs the silverado policy accelerator and was a founder of cybersecurity company crowdstrike. dimitri, good to see you. >> thanks for having me, chris. >> so first, am i exaggerating any of this? how real is the threat in terms of growing scope, scale? >> you're not. i hate to use the word that it's an epidemic in the midst of an actual pandemic but it really is coming to that. when they're going after our food security, our food supply, when they're going after our gas, when they're going after our hospitals. we had a huge outbreak in hospitals last year in the midst of a pandemic. critical surgeries have been postponed. they have even gone after breweries and distilleries if you can believe that, chris. truly nothing is sacred anymore. but the reality is every type of business is under attack. schools, police departments. the d.c. police department was hit a few months ago and had to -- had its confidential files