if people don't know that, it's because people don't care about it at this point so forget it. you made a very different decision on how to handle impeachment with the president. what led to the decision you guys made about how to handle impeachment and messaging of the same and what difference did it make in your situation? >> well, look, i think we respected the process that we were going through. we didn't think the president should be impeached or removed from office. we fought about that with people on capitol hill but we respected the process. our lawyers participated in the process, witnesses were called, we made the argument and ultimately prevailed. the american people stood with the president. they understood that he was doing a job for them and was spending his time continuing to do that job. >> that was the key. you guys called it compartmentalization. the president went on an ambitious agenda. unfortunately we had foreign