her -- they were trying to achieve these other directors and this erp going to either do it by forcing the career feel go along and compromise their values quite frankly or they were going to do it through the ul and as you were saying earlier, i simply don't know how secretary pompeo is not dragged in. if he doesn't come in to talk to the impeachment inquiry, then the senate and house foreign relations committees, how were y you. >> rick: you guys don't know jim as well as i do. legal expertise of -- but they dope want any more litigation. that's why they're not subpoenaing people anymore. they're going to wait for the