>> a verbal fistfight. i have no problem with the verbal fistfight. but i think we have to call it out, shine a light on it. okay? he's projecting. he feels that way about himself. >> he's shone that light onto the caucus and they ran like rats into that scif. >> and many of those people are human scum because behind his back they're deriding him and they're saying, geez, what a quote unquote handful he is and how damaging he is and how are we going to survive him as the head of the gop. >> and lindsey graham says he has 44 senators ready to sign a resolution saying that the impeachment process is -- >> okay. so let's see senator graham do that. but i think at the end of the day we need to hear more testimony. and i think what you're finding is and what i would have loved to ask david on the show is you know the president pretty well -- >> david urban. >> yeah. there's one phone call with zelensky. we've got the transcript. david, do you think there are more phone calls like that with other world leaders? knowing the president's personality, do we think in three years there's only one phone call like that with the