she has shown a work ethic during this campaign is impressive. >> and she knuckles up. >> i can talk to you about -- >> a lot of democrats -- as you know, every time we're on location, the democrats are in fight mode. they always say, who's our fighter? she knuckles up. and that's something we're seeing. we'll see what happens on the debate stage. >> and she hustles. >> she hustles. she's working hard. >> that woman hustles. >> she's showing energy, all of that stuff that we put labels on, but it can matter to people. so ana, the other ana, casperian, i call you by your last name as a term of endearment. >> i like it. >> i do that a lot. everyone calls me cuomo. it works. so the idea that they're catching up to him, you still have a problem. because you have a bifurcated race in that other lane. you have warren and sanders. and again, i'm not looking for animus. we have enough of it. but i don't know how they can both stay so friendly. yes, their bases are a little differe different, warren and sanders, but not that different. >> actually, i do think that they differ in various policies.