hoped. >> as they would have liked. hold on a minute, i want richard quest and chuck barnett to weigh in. richard, first to you, what do you make of this information that "the new york times" is reporting? >> first of all, congratulations on this information on this scoop for want of a better word. this is good solid reporting. what i make of it, it's very significant, absolutely incredibly significant. this gives us the sort of detail that you now need to know to reduce the parameters of what took place. once you're getting this very -- i'm assuming it's reliable and we're waiting for confirmation, but i don't doubt "the new york times" in this respect. once you start getting this sort of detail, then you can start to pinpoint was it somebody in the cockpit? was the plane overtaken? was it just -- remember, planes are designed to fly even if nobody's at the wheel, so to speak. it has a natural inherent stability about it.