medicaid, as you know, and speakers have tried to deal with for many years, is driving state budget deficits, and has for the last two decades. governors are increasingly being squeezed in that regard. >> is your solution to let people go without medical assist assistance? >> of course not. >> you're saying if you were governor -- >> i would say -- i can't answer that. i honestly can't answer that, because i'm not -- i don't know the fiscal situation of the state obviously as well as when we were in. but there's lots of things to do. i have to tell you -- >> i'm frustrated. let me just tell you, i think we have a lot of people watches this show, and they say, you know what? you have republican governors, with people who are working hard who will get screwed unnecessarily. and it's not -- hold on a second. it's not just the high-minded fiscal -- this is political