cause on behalf of one of these jihadi groups. >> caller: right. it's certainly outside the standard demographic in terms of age, but the full range of sort of terrorists are much younger and much older than, you know, might say the 18 to 35-year-old. there were some australians who were found to be much younger than 18. you see people older helping out. we don't want to derive too much from the fact that he's in his 40s. >> i want to ask you this last question. what has struck you as watching this unfold for the last several hours as the most unusual thing about this particular hostage situation? >> caller: anything unusual about it? >> mm-hm. what has struck you as being the most unusual as far as the guy that we're seeing on the screen here? >> caller: i would say that what's unusual about it is that, you know, typically, we, you