there. overall, he stuck generally to the facts and let them speak for themselves throughout the evening, erin. did not take as many flights of fancy we sometimes seen political media. >> no, no, he didn't. tom foreman, thanks. jake, it was interesting, even on the point is talk about debt, right, he's said obama increased the debt, and then trump increased more. i mean, i did notice several points where he made a point of using facts, and he did use them accurately. >> yeah, he sure did. let's talk about this in my panel, christie took aim at both trump and biden on concerns that either one of them would become the oldest person ever elected president. take a listen. >> if those two people are the nominee is, they are going to be a combined 160 years old on