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a reminder to join lou on the radio. go to loudobbs.com to find local listings on the road. good night from new york. next, sitting in for campbell next, sitting in for campbell brown, john roberts. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com tonight, here are the questions we want answered. can president obama get his groove back? he's going to capitol hill in person to try to tweak his message on health care. are nude parties and deviant hazing put be our troops in afghanistan at risk? >> a total breakdown. a total lack of respect on the part of the guards for the supervisors. how did this man survive after his heart stopped for 45 minutes? i'll talk to the doctors who literally brought him back from the dead. and is whitney houston really ready for a comeback. >> it's not a comeback for me. i've been here. i've been here. i just took a break. >> her voice gave out during her big debut. is oprah to blame? also, is chris brown really sorry for what he did to rianna? >> do you remember doing it? >> no. >> larry: you don't remember? >> no, it's crazy. plus, is everything we know about our kids wrong? is praise bad? >> average 15 more minutes. every fe15 minutes counts. >> surprising advice on what's best your kids. >> announcer: the only source for news, cnn prime time begins now, in for campbell brown, john roberts. hi, everybody. campbell brown is off tonight. those are our big questions. but we start as always with the "mash-up." looking at all the stories making an impact. and the moments you might have missed we're watching it all so you don't have to. the white house announced that president obama will address a joint session of congress and the nation a week from today. the president has been underincreasing pressure to provide more specifics of his health care reform plan. today, supporters and critics agreed the president has to take control. >> i think he absolutely has to push the reset button and start over. >> take control of his that they've evidently lost. >> he has to provide detail. >> this has gotten away from the white house, quite frankly, they know it. >> he's got to get in there and fight it out. >> grab control of the debate. >> grab the nation by control. >> shift the strategy. regain it. >> seize the initiative. >> set the table. >> get it done. >> like the president, members of corning still on vacation, still holding town hall meetings and still hearing loud opinions from voters. >> you've heard the noise around health care reform? how much of a difference has it made? the latest cnn research poll shows it has not killed america's appetite for some kind of form. according to our polling, 53% of americans want congress to continue working on the byes they started before recess. compare that to 25% who want congress to start from scratch, and 20% who want no reform at all. >> the president has said he wants a plan passed before the end of this year. to california now, and the wildfires. cooler weather helped today and some people forced to evacuate can now go home. investigators still don't know what started the massive fire, but they're looking into whether it was started by a person either on purpose or by accident. >> it is scorching thousands more acres. coloring the sun blood red. and excites over l.a. an eerie gray haze. >> the station fire here is 140,000 acres burned so far. 22% is contained. now, that doesn't look like much, but let me tell you it's a great improvement. >> it's the first time we've gotten any indication from officials about what might have caused this blaze. >> there was no lightning in the area at the time so they believe it's manmade. could have been kids play wig matches. the car overheating. someone not properly putting out a campfire. any of those things, really. >> with fire beaten back from threatened neighborhoods, some residents are allowed to go home today. the signs of optimism appearing on streets saved by firefighters. >> not everyone was so lucky. >> it was the love of my life. >> pictures of the fire have gone viral with the favorites time lapses like this one. an i-report that was sent into cnn, shot from a roof of a parking garage in los angeles. take a look at that, almost looks like a volcano erupting. new details about nancy garrido, the woman who was with her husband. garrido spent years taking care of her bed-ridden mother while while jaycee was in the backyard. >> it's a horrendous thing for her. i realize it's horrendous for jaycee and her parents and the children. it's my concern right now that my client get a fair trial. if you're asking for me to formulate a defense strategy, i guess the defense would be, she's a victim. she's distraught. she's scared. she seems to be a little lost at the moment. she has said to me that she misses the girls that she loves them. and her feeling was that she had become a family. >> nancy garrido's attorney. and we're also hearing more be what was happening in that antioch, california backyard for so many years. >> several of garrido's neighbors are raising disturbing questions about what happened in garrido's backyard. might go roger said grown men often partied in the backyard prisony jaycee lived there and in tents. it's troubling to know what what was happening. >> what did you see the guys doing? >> cheering, high-fiving, drinking beer, getting crazy. screaming, hollering, you know, i thought maybe they were partying. >> jaycee dugard and her daughters are still in an undisclosed location. her hometown is planning a parade to celebrate her release. a georgia man whose family was killed saturday appeared in court today. eight people were killed. police have not said much and that has left a lot of questions. 22-year-old guy heinze jr., the young man who made the emotional 911 call after finding eight victims brutally murdered in a mobile home park in brunswick, georgia has received a $20,000 bond and house arrest. this, after being charged with possession of drugs, obstruction of justice and tampering with evidence. heinze said a warrant alleges he removed a gun from the site. his brother motioned to us that he didn't have anything to do with the massacre. does this bail signal that he's not really a serious suspect? and if there are other people involved, who are they? how many are they? where are they? now, here's what's crazy about this case. police, they're hardly saying anything. >> the judge said they fined him $20,000 bond. he can be placed under house arrest but his trailer home is a crime scene so it's unclear where he would go. there are killing new concerns about two american journalists held prisoner in north korea. lau laura ling and euna lee have not told their story today. >> did they wonder if they walked into a trap? >> while they deeply regret the incident, they say they're not aware they crossed into north korea. quote, there were no signs marking the international border, no fences, no bashed wire. >> they were following their guide. they got nervous and headed across the river and were on chinese soil when north korean border guards grabbed them. we tried with all our might to cling to bushes, grounds are thing that would keep its on our chinese ground. we were no match for soldiers. they violently marched us back to an army base. abc news is changing anchors. charlie gibson announced today that he will retire in january. diane sawyer will take over "world news." here's how the competition handled it. >> abc announced that charles gibson, anchor of "world news" will retire the end of the year. he'll be replaced by diane sawyer. congratulations to both. >> as a service, we will let you know how the transition goes just to save you from having to watch yourself. that was cbs and nbc. here's what we saw on abc. >> that is "world news" for this wednesday. i'm charlie gibson. and i hope you had a good day, for all of us at abc news, have a good night. >> charlie didn't mention the news. i'm sure they'll make a big deal about it on his last day. we certainly wish him well. he has been a shining light in the world of journalism. good luck, charlie. vermont is all about gay marriage and ice cream. yesterday, they allowed gay couples to marry. and a marketing opportunity. >> bit power that's vested in me by the state of vermont, i do nearby recognize, i certify, and yes, i do proclaim that you are married and partners for life. >> with those words bob and bill made history just after midnight, they became one of the first couples to ute. >> this is something that i feel like we've been inline for 17 years. >> benefit & jerry's is celebrating by changing the name of their chubby hubby ice cream to hubby hubby. >> that's looking at social justice issues and quality, this seems to be one that fits perfectly with that. >> that brings us to the punch line tonight, courtesy of conan o'brien. >> gay marriage became legal in vermont today. and to show its support, ben and jerry's has changed the name of chubby hubby ice cream to hubby hubby. yeah, they did that. yeah. the only difference is that hubby hubby comes with extra nuts. >> and that is the "mash-up." tonight's big question. how does a man survive after his heart you stops beating for 45 minutes? 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>> miraculous, extraordinary. >> those aren't words that doctors use. it's usually fine medical science. and a miracle, what makes it a miracle? >> the length that he was down. and as that he came back just about his normal self, walking, talking and fully functional. >> he is incredible. when you think his heart had stopped at 45 minutes. he was in a car wash. when he started to feel effects nausea, chills, pain in the chest. tried to drive himself to the hospital. couldn't make it. called a colleague. a colleague called him and he said, i'm in trouble, got to get me to the hospital. he walked in the hospital, minutes later, what happened? >> well, he started to sign himself in. he was covered in sweat. so he started to take his shirt off and he collapsed right from the triage area. >> and when he collapsed, had his heart stopped? >> that's right. >> dr. feldman, typically, when you a patient's heart stops, how long do you have to resuscitate? >> usually, the faster you can get to the patient the better it is. we really have very little time getting there? >> very little time, three minutes, five minute, ten minutes? >> a few minutes. five minutes or so. >> this guy went well over eight times? >> that's right. >> you have ever seen anything like this in your experience? >> no, i have not. this is truly amazing. >> dr. gaudio, you try to resuscitate him. you get out the paddles on the chest. how many times did you do that? >> eight times. >> so compared to a typical re su resuscitation, you would do how many? >> how long it worked. eight times. >> you shocked him eight times. at that point you were thinking? >> i had gone out to a colleague of his who was in touch with the family to prepare them for the worst. >> you were about to say, we've done our best, there's no hope, he's probably gone? >> i went to say, we're doing our best, and it doesn't look good. >> and so what changed the equation? >> we don't know for sure. it was probably a combination of our good chest compressions. we did 4,500 compressions during the 45 minutes. >> this is cpr -- >> no, no, much stronger than that. we give him oxygen. we put him on a breathing machine to support him. we gave him medication like epinephrine to try to jump start the heart. then in the end, we decided to try a clot-dissolving solution. it's not pemeant for these situations. >> not for when their heart is stopped? >> not when the heart is stopped. hasn't been designed for that. >> and that is the factor that brought him around? >> we think that contributed to it, yes. >> wow. what was it about that that would have helped? you told me off camera, this was on the right side of the heart where there's a natural pacemaker? >> right. the command center. >> do you think that opened it up just a little bit? >> just a little bit. just a little bit to bring his heart back. >> dr. feldman, we have heard stories of people who have drowned whose heart has stopped for some 30 minutes, but typically, those stories are about people who have fallen in a frozen pond. the cool water cools their head, slows down the brain activity. and there isn't the level of deterioration that there would be at room temperature. here's a fellow in a hospital, room temperature with all of the activity going on there, you kept him alive for 45 minutes. and as dr. gaudio has said, he comes back with literally noll deterioration in brain function. how amazing is that? >> it's absolutely amazing. it happens very rarely. as you know, the longer the resuscitation, the longer the chest compressions take place the can chance for meaningful recovery with a good brain function becomes smaller and smaller. but that is what we've learned from this case. >> after dr. gaudio resuscitated him, he went into your hands. what do you do then? >> what we did, we need to identify what caused the arrhythmia. >> or he'll be back in the same place again? >> exactly, the clot or the heart is not getting enough blood flow. what we do is take pictures of the arteries inside of the heart. >> angiogram. >> to find which artery is blocked. take the clot out, put a stent in and give the heart blood flow. >> and how is he doing? >> he's doing great. doing great. >> unbelievable. you kept him in a coma for three days. what were his words when he came out? >> well, when he started to wake he couldn't speak because he had the breathing tube. he had great signs because his wife and his children were at his bedside, they said, dad, if you can understand us, squeeze our hands. that was encouraging. great work -- >> you mentioned finding people in the lake and cold water, i just want to mention that we created those conditions in the emergency room, we cooled hill down that probably contributed to his recovery. >> that's pretty amazing. >> absolutely, that helps a lot with recovery of the brain. cooling them down. doctors, amazing work that you did. there's one for the history books and your own personal records. dr. gaudio and dr. feldman, thank you for coming in tonight. hurricane jimena hits baja, mexico. plus, whitney houston made her debut today. is she really ready for a comeback? 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it's a story of booze, sex and humiliation. and tonight's newsmakers, chris brown, the exclusive interview. >> i'm there to say, i guess, i wish i could take it back and i really regret now. booze, parties, nudity, hazing, humiliating rituals and payback for anyone who didn't go along. no, we're not talking about a college from tempt run amok, private security guards, contractors supposed to be protecting the u.s. embassy in war-torn afghanistan. the picks are part of a stunning complaints made by a government watchdog group. >> in afghanistan, evidence of hazing, humiliation, understaffing, sleep deprivation, and an all-out crisis in discipline. >> security guards responsible for protecting american lives at the embassy, accused of hazing, groping, urinating on each other. vodka shots and potato chips out of body parts. some of these people are supervisors. >> we have uncovered new pictures of these contractors acting recklessly and possibly endangering security. >> particularly, after the blackwater incident in iraq, where blackwater guards are accused of unnecessarily opening fire on a crowd in baghdad and killi killing innocent civilians, you would think that the state department would be even more aggressive in oversight of the private security guards that they're hiring. but apparently, that was not the case, at least there in kabul. >> daniel o'brien is the woman who wrote to secretary of state clinton. he's the executive director of executive oversight. danielle, great to see you tonight. when you take a look at those photographs. you have described this as "lord of the flies" moment. photographs, naked, dancing around the fire. you said there was lewd and deviant behavior. how did this happeny. >> it's amazing that the state department allowed this to. what. these are supervisors engaged in this behavior. and it's been going on for over a year. >> and you wrote to secretary of state clinton you said the government believes that the management of the contract in kabul is grossly deficient, posing a significant threat to the personnel. th have they dropped the ball, are they to blame here? >> i'm placed the blame on the character group, whacken hunt, in both case, these people knew or should have known or allowed to continue. >> you know, in response to your letter, the state department did have a statement today. this was delivered by ian kelly. let's listen to what he had to say. >> we believe that the emembassy in kabul has been well protected. we believe americans whose nationals and others working in emembassy kabul have had the security they need. >> you heard what the spokesman has said, we believe the emembassy has been well protected. people there have the security they need. your response? >> i have two responses. the first is, i'm actually talk to get guards there are there. they are the ones telling me that they are concerned that the embassy is not adequately protected. the second thing is, the state department over the last two years have written to the group saying that the state department is concerned that they're not. >> there was a hearing in subcontracting oversight held back in june, at which, the dispute assistant secretary of state for logistics william moser said this. the regional security officer in afghanistan has always reported despite contractual deficiencies, the performance on the ground by armorgroup north america has been and is sound. what do you make of thatty. >> i think this is the case that he's not actually talking to the people on the ground. if talk to the whistle-blowers who are guards themselves. and i talked to nearly 15 of them at this point, that's about 10% of the english-speaking guard force there. in my work with whistle-blowers, that's a huge force. >> you have talked to military supervisor of these contractors to ensure that there's the military there at the baes there. >> there's no question cha we need to have immediate action to ensure the protection of the diplomats. and to help take care of the good guys, who are the whistle-blowers who have come forward with the information. then you have to look at the groups that are holding people accountable. we're worried that at least one whistle-blower is being retaliated against for coming forward. and then whether or not we can count on private security contractors to be at these embassies at all. >> thanks for being with us. whitney houston's big return to the stage, packed in the crowds, but it's leaving a lot of fans scratching their heads. for one thing, her voice didn't sound the same when she was doing promo interviews like this. >> you guys are catching up. it's not a comeback for me. i've been here. i've been here. i just took a break. a lot of fortune 500 companies use him. but-- i'm your only employee. we're gonna start using fedex to ship globally-- that means billions of potential customers. we're gonna be huge. good morning! you know business is a lot like football... i just don't understand... i'm sorry dick butkus. 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>> i think her performance was great, considering that she has been away for seven years. she might have been a little rusty, guess what, whitney houston's voice, when on a bad day is still better than an artist's good day. >> well, what did you think? one fan said she couldn't sing, but at the same time, that fan said she was brave to come out there, particularly with her voice not up to where it was before? >> first of all, let's not dance around what everybody is not talking about. the question is whether or not drug drug use is the cause of the wonderful voice that whitney had. and i think of david who died of a drug overdose. we don't know if it was that or whether she was tired. the bottom line, i think it's more important that this woman is not somewhere out of her mind and she's on the road to recovery. being a good mother, being a good daughter and good friend. being on that stage, frankly, just getting there, after what she's endured is more important than anything else. >> marvette, what do you think, the question that roland raised here, how much is the condition of her voice owed to past drug use? >> we will never know. we know that she struggled with adversity. and that she's back. she did do an oprah interview the day before for six hours. and your voice -- she needs vocal rest. she came out. i think she did a great job. i think walking out on that stage and see an audience be as receptive as they were, whitney wasn't sure what she was going to find. what she found was an adoring audience and folks thrilled to see her return. she did a great job. i think we should look what the he's endured and be happy that she is a live and she's healthy and she's a great mother. she's back to restore and resuscitate the wonderful climatic career that we all know she's capable of having. >> comparing pictures then and now. no question there were a lot of people anxious to see her. they lined up all night. they appreciated the concert, even though some say it wasn't the whitney that we're used to from seven-plus years ago. >> you know what, john, i remember when anita baker gave a concert in new york. and a lot of people had horrible reviews because she had returned after a long layoff. and at the music festival in july she killed them. i remember lionel richie had a problem with his throat. he thought his career was over. he killed them. a lot of entertainers who have had a long layoff, frankly, we'll see what happens six months from now, a year from now, to see what actually happens to ascertain whether or not she has hurt her voice long-term or whether this was something through enter rues that he was impacted by. >> marvette, you've handled comebacks before. mariah carey is one you helped out. would you have chosen this venue, this big concert in central park, televised by abc or would you have started smaller and worked your way up? >> i would have started smaller. and done more intimate perform mapses before a large global performance. and it was global. she was in front of a large audience. and we have to remember where emotions played. emotions played a big part of whitney's performance. she came out, again, not knowing if there were 20 people there to receive her or 20,000. the emotions played a big part. just happy to be alive. doing what she loves. clearly what the fans love seeing her do. >> diane sawyer talked to her about the troubled times during that performance that was aired on "gma." let's listen to that interchange. >> tour the two of of us -- we go back a long way. >> we do. >> seven years ago. it was a very different world then. >> it was, it was. yes, it was. >> i was worried for you. >> el were, don't be worried anymore. if you know god, don't be worried. >> i was going to ask what was it in those seven years that brought you right here today? >> my faith. my faith. the love and support of my family which i do have. >> roland, diane was referring back to that infamous 2002 interview that whitney houston gave where she talked about drug use. >> crack. >> and for a lot of people that's the way people are going to remember whitney houston. can she overcome that image in this comeback? >> of course, she can. there very many people who frankly have gone through substance abuse problems. we just talked about the death of ted kennedy over the weekend. and he talks about in detail his battle with the bottle all of these years and drinking. keep in mind, whitney houston, we have sisters, aunts, uncles, family members in her same situation. maybe they aren't singing across the world. but they're all battling substance abuse. forget the idea of being as big as she used to be. can she survive day by day. if she continues on that path, her legacy there be there as owe posed to that particular interview. >> the album selling well so maybe she's got a real shot at it. good to see you tonight. thanks for coming by. chris brown talks to larry king in the first interview since he attacked his girlfriend rihanna. the first stop in what is to be another celebrity apology tour. but is chris brown really sorry. let's listen. >> when i look at the police report, i don't know what to think. i just don't know what to think. and we're ready for it. because we took all our lists and we went to walmart. since walmart checks other store's prices... i didn't have to. that means we got home in time... for just a little more summer -- and for one last night of lightning bugs. back to school costs less at walmart. save money. live better. walmart. chris brown is doing five years' probation plus community service for attacking his girlfriend rihanna back in february. but when it comes to the court of public opinion, the jury is still out. it's not going to be easy for him to live it down, especially like powerful images like this fresh in people's he recently taped the first interview since the attack with larry king but it sounds like brown is back pedaling, listen to this. >> when you look at this, do you feel like you're looking at somebody's? >> yes. when you see it on tv -- >> what, you punched her a number of times? >> yeah. >> you threatened to beat the blank out of her. when you got home, also said you were going to kill her. you bit on the ear and things. hear it out. obviously, this is disparaging here. you don't appear like a violent person at all, in fact, you rather rather calm, rather nice. so what happened to you, do you think? >> if i had to say, i guess -- i wish i could take back everything and i really regret what i did. >> when you hear about all of the things that the police in the reports say you did, how do you react to that? >> i got to just look at it, wow, like i'm in shock. first of all, that's not who i am as a person. and that's not who i am. when you look at the police report, hear about the police reports i don't know what to think. i just don't know what to think >> larry: do you remember doing it? >> no >> larry: you don't remember doing it? >> no. it's crazy. it's like -- like wow. larry ki>> larrylarry kin>> lar you, joyce, when he came and spoke to your son? >> he came and actually said what happened. i was totally shocked. totally upset. i said, chris, you've never, ever been a violent person ever. the entire time that high school or anything. i've never been called >> larry: never. >> never. >> since he taped that interview with larry king, chris bound said that 30 seconds of the news they used of me was taken from a one-hour sbe view. when you look at the interview, you'll see it's not representative of what i said. you'll get a chance to see that whole interview in ten minutes' time. what if almost everything you knew about raising your kids is wrong? what if praise does them more harm than good. in a minute, how not to talk to your kids. >> when we think we're tweaking our kids, it may be deception. kids are smart enough to decode our patterns it. ( revving, siren blares ) there's no way to hide it. sir, have you been drinking tonight? if you ride drunk, you will get caught... and you will get arrested. this just in for cnn. potential problems for the space shuttle "discovery." international space station nasa briefing a moment ago saying there's a substantial piece of space junk that may be heading in the direction of the space station. 10:06 eastern time on friday is when the debris will pass, according to officials, within 3 kilometers of that. they're going to make a decision about 30 hours out from that whether or not they need to form a mission to dodge the debris. well, forget what you know about raising your kids. chances are you've been wrong all along. especially if you're the kind of parents who praises your son and daughter in the name of encouragement. that's among the new theories put forth in nurture shock. new thinking about children. po bronson talked to campbell brown. >> the idea for the book started with a controversial article that you wrote called "praise is dangerous." explain what you mean about that. >> 85% of parents feel it's important to tell your kids you're smart. it teaches them that intelligence is innate, not something they can control. and it makes them concerned with their image of looking smart. it headaches them weary of taking risks academically, and ever getting a bad grade. the kids go on to wants to cheat in middle school. they look at the teachers a lot. you also write with older children when a teacher praises them, they can interpret that as falling behind and not doing well. when kids watch videotapes of other kids being phrased and they ask, what do you think of that kid in the video tape, are they smart? no, no, they're praised by a teacher. that is it clearly a sign at that teachers know about him. >> what do you say? what do you say to your own kids? how do you talk to them in a way that compensates for that, i guess? >> we might want to praise less. as parents it's hard to praise less. first, tell them that you love them. don't let praise be love. praise what they can control. how much effort they give. the specific strategies they use in a situation. don't be afraid to talk to your child when not performing well on how to do better and not coverage up failures. that just tells kids that failures is unmentionable and that anything but success is forbidden. >> we're always told as mothers, as fathers to rely on our instincts because deep down inside, we probably do know what's best. you say, no, forget about your instincts. >> i was wrong about my instincts until i ran into the information on praise. i'm not saying trust experts or trust instincts. it's really not giving your faith officer t faith over to something. it's about looking at the underlying evidence and trusting it for yourself. if you get informed, then you can trust yourself. >> here's another thing that bronson said you shouldn't do, let your kids stay up late, over on the weekends. wind out why. what's it like living with a child abductor? shawn hornman breaking his silence about his own kidnapping ordeal. boston. boise? same flat rate. alabama. alaska? with priority mail flat rate boxes from the postal service. if it fits, it ships anywhere in the country for a low flat rate. dude's good. dude's real good. dudes. priority mail flat rate boxes only from the postal service. a simpler way to ship. when she started forgetting things, i was hoping it was nothing. grandma! what a nice surprise! mom, it's sunday. that's when i knew i couldn't wait. mom's doctor said these were signs of alzheimer's, a type of dementia, and that prescription aricept could help. he said it's the only treatment proven effective... for all stages of alzheimer's. studies showed aricept slows the progression... of alzheimer's symptoms. it improves cognition... and slows the decline of overall function. aricept is well tolerated but not for everyone. people at risk for stomach ulcers... or who take certain other medicines... should tell their doctors... because serious stomach problems... such as bleeding may get worse. some people may experience fainting. some people may have nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, bruising, or not sleep well. some people may have muscle cramps... or loss of appetite or may feel tired. in studies, these were usually mild and temporary. mom. talk to your doctor about aricept. don't wait. alzheimer's isn't waiting. if you get sick, or change jobs. eight ways reform matters to you. a cap on deductibles and out-of-pocket costs. no annual or lifetime limits on coverage. preventive care. covered. pre-existing conditions. covered. no higher rates due to genlér. extended coverage for young adults. no more coverage denied if you get sick. and guaranteed renewal, even if you do. learn more today. - oh, come on. - enough! you get half and you get half. 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