>> it is, but a lot of the schedule, moving parts and they're adults. they've got busy -- they've got jobs and busy lives, so i'd say that can be the toughest part, but i'd say if i was still a lawyer back in l.a., i'd probably be saying the same thing. >> yeah, right. >> show me your tattoos. you talked about -- >> i'll show you one. this is very simple. >> i'll show you two. >> it's the kids' initials, i got this shortly after kirsten and i separated. i just really wanted a reminder of what's important to me, and it was cole and ella, and i just wanted a visceral reminder of them. so cole is coltrane, and ella is ella fillings gerald. we were very much into the jazz. >> were you always a tattoo guy? >> no. >> so what made you wake up one day and say, oh, i'm going to get my kids initials on my wrist. >> many people who got tattoos. it was a whim. >> were you sober?