driven on a local economy, small business, how are these folks doing? do they have a work force, where does the work force live, do we have an opportunity for a housing project? the real issue is tell me what's wrong, tell me what isn't working, right, because now i have the challenge tago and fix it or break down the barrier to figure out how to make it better. >> hard to believe he insists he was once a shy introvert. >> pleasure, nice to see you. >> i just turned 95 last week. >> that's it? >> that's it. >> between campaign stops we followed him on a grocery run. >> all right, so i do need a few things. >> a regular errand he insists he enjoys. >> this would have been probably just under $4 a year ago. >> why do you do the food shopping in. >> therapy. i love it. first, i have a math guy. we're going to spend $125, i've got to get the best deals. and i find i like doing it. i enjoy it. >> this is not -- this is not just for us? >> oh, no, no.