then we've also had to process the fact that the relationship between police and community is not what we want it to be and so often young black men, you know, experience police not as a positive force to protect, but as somebody who is going see you as a suspect or somebody to be feared. how is that playing out for you in school and also now that you're working. >> police in chicago for a while i was driving lyft when i was in college. i'd come home weekends, drive lyft and i was getting pulled over like crazy, almost every night i was getting pulled over, but the first question they asked and i asked how are you doing, officer? their first question is any drugs and weapons in the car?