with steve bannon and mark meadows. what they're really trying to do is dig into the notion of whether former president trump obstructed justice telling people to change their testimony. the problem is the timing. this is at a time when the select committee hadn't been formed. there wasn't discussion around investigating this. so to me it's going to come down to even if they had a conversation around, kevin, you should change your tune and come back on board and support me, the question is, is that a political calculation having to do with the 2020 midterms and president trump's, you know, leadership of the party going forward, or is that about the possibility of a hypothetical investigation down the road? the select committee ultimately, doj would have to prove it's latter in order to think about a prosecution based on that. >> jennifer thank you. manu, thank you so much. i mentioned kevin mccarthy will be taking questions from reporters. also developing today, president biden will head to capitol hill this afternoon to