former chief of staff who was in the capitol with him that day will go, maybe within the next few weeks, to the hill to meet behind closed doors with the committee. so will his chief counsel. those were the two individuals who were the closest to mike pence who were helping make the deci decisions, including, especially, the big decision, the fateful decision, to go ahead and preside over certifying over the electoral college as he decided was his constitutional duty. so my understanding, in talking to sources around the former vice president is to wait and see what happens with those two individuals and then to look forward to see if there is any chance that the vice president will go. i mean, people i'm talking to are saying they're not really sure if an actual discussion could happen. it is possible. there might be an option for questions and answers in