and, you know, all the wrangling in congress, and a lot of the mayoral races around the country, we're seeing that same split between moderates and progressives play out. it's an interesting test of sort of which side of the party will be able to prevail. also the debate over police reform and funding of police and hiring more officers. those are huge issues that are at play here today, kate. they'll tell us a lot about what the messaging will look like next year. >> absolutely. i want to jump into the mayoral races in just a second. harry, one place that you have been looking into closely is virginia where sunlen serfaty was talking about the race between all points bulletin and glen youngkin. we're seeing in the final pitches from both candidates -- we're seeing final pitches that both candidates are making to voters. but what is the role that president biden and former president donald trump have played into this race? >> weighing down candidates, that's essentially the role that