very -- not impossible but very difficult to bridge this gap because they are different points of view. joe manchin represents people, and he is not dissimilar to them, who don't don't necessarily believe in a bigger entitlement system in the government having so much of a role in programs that will be hard to take back. and the democrats on the other side of that divide think that that's exactly what the government's role should be. and therein lies the question of how to bridge that philosophical, ideological divide within the democratic party. >> all right, guys. more to come. thank you very much. let's dig into this and get more on perspective on what today is going to bring. joining me now mikey sherrill from new jersey. you want to see a vote on infrastructure today. speaker pelosi did not give a clear answer if it was going to