witnesses? >> as a prosecutor, i like the documents, they don't go south on you, who knows what mulvaney or bolton will say. the postscript don't tell anybody, you need both. when you go to trial, you want sort of a binder with 10 or 15 killer documents that nobody could rebut. i think those are really key even though of course the drama of a live witness is unsurpassed. >> standby to standby as we continue this twist and turn. >> happy holidays. >> thank you, harry. >> gipresident trump's personal attorney holding back when he sat down with new york magazine earlier this month.