better for us, no business? >> well, that reference is reference to decoupling the united states from china. and if we decouple, this isn't going to bode well for the economy. it's going to, frankly, be a disaster, because both economies have been relying on each other. in america we have like 329 million people and in china they have 1.4 billion people. so we're going to tell them what to do? we want to have this trade deal, we want to be able to sell to china and we want china to be a little better to us in terms of our intellectual property. but the means and the ends aren't matching here. >> quickly, let me ask you, do you care about this back and forth when the president says we've got to call overnight from china, they want to go back to the table and then china says we have no confirmation of a call? do you care about those specific details? >> we don't care about the